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|From: David Shove (shove001tc.umn.edu)|
|Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 02:08:01 -0700 (PDT)|
P R O G R E S S I V E C A L E N D A R 09.08.06 1. Ramsey budget 9.08 8:30am 2. Immigrant roundtable 9.08 9:15pm 3. Peltier/FBI files 9.08 9:30am 4. Animals/compassion 9.08 3:30pm 5. Vigil vs Israel 9.08 4:15pm 6. Sur-rational art 9.08 6pm 7. Love/Cuba/film 9.08 6pm 8. 911 saint/film 9.08 7:15pm 9. Amy Goodman/HERE 9.08 7:30pm 10. Lit drop/Farheen 9.08 11. Precaution think 9.08-10 12. John Kolstad - Gubernatorial debate 13. Howard Zinn - War is not a solution for terrorism 14. John Nichols - Fight for Internet freedom heats up --------1 of 14------- From: Diane J. Peterson <birch7 [at] comcast.net> Subject: Ramsey budget 9.08 8:30am How will our tax dollars be spent? That's a core question for voters, and for residents, of any area. I happened upon a notice that the public may have input to Ramsey County this Friday concerning spending--specifically, comments are being taken on the proposed budget for next year. At the Ramsey County website, I saw the following notice: -- 2007 Ramsey County budget discussions underway The Ramsey County Board of Commissioners is now in budget discussions regarding the 2007 budget. The 2007 proposed budget includes a 2% spending increase, which is well below the rate of inflation. The public may comment on the budget on Friday, September 8th from 8:30-to-Noon If you wish to address the Board contact: 651-266-8014 -------2 of 14-------- From: humanrts [at] umn.edu Subject: Immigrant roundtable 9.08 9:15pm September 8 - Immigrant Community Roundtable. Time: 9:15am-12noon. Much of the current debate on immigration reform in the U.S. has centered around proposed legalization for the undocumented population. However, the federal immigration proposals contain countless measures that will change current practices that will affect all immigrant, refugee and asylee communities here in Minnesota. To address these issues, this event will present two panel discussions to draw out important issues that have not yet been adequately addressed and to bring in members of the various communities that have not yet joined the immigration reform conversation. The two main topics for the panel are "Detention and Removal" and "Fraudulent Documents and Enforcement." Members of government agencies will speak to current practices and members of NGO's will address the legislative proposals. The audience will have some opportunity for Q&A after each panel discussion. AGENDA * 9:15-9:30 a.m. Sign-in * 9:30-9:40 a.m. Introduction to Roundtable Hector Garcia * 9:40-10:00 a.m. Introduction to Topic and Panelists Michele Garnett McKenzie, Minnesota Advocates for Human Rights * 10:00-10:45 a.m. 1st Panel: Detention and Removal Panelists: Ann Tanke, Deputy Chief Counsel, Office of Chief Counsel Scott Baniecke, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Office of Detention and Removal Shoba Sivaprasad Wadhia, Senior Policy Associate, National Immigration Forum Immigration Attorney Moderator: Michele Garnett McKenzie * 10:45-11:00 a.m. Break * 11:00-11:45 a.m. 2nd Panel: Fraudulent Documents and Enforcement Panelists: Mark Cangemi, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) St. Paul Police Chief, John Harrington Shoba Sivaprasad Wadhia, Senior Policy Associate, National Immigration Forum Immigration Attorney Moderator: Michele Garnett McKenzie * 11:45-12:00 p.m. Community Input/Task Force * 12:00 p.m. Adjourn 2.0 CLE credits applied for. Hosted by Minnesota Advocates for Human Rights. For more information call Sarah Herder at 612-341-3302 ext 126. 2.0 CLE credits applied for. Location: The International Institute, 1694 Como Ave, St. Paul, MN 55108 --------3 of 14-------- Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:48:38 -0500 From: Chris Spotted Eagle <chris [at] spottedeagle.org> Subject: Peltier/FBI files 9.08 9:30am Leonard Peltier's lawyers arguing to release FBI files US. Courthouse, 300 South Fourth Street, Courtroom 9E, Minneapolis September 8 9:30am Hearing: Open to the public Barry A. Bachrach, Esq. and Michael Kuzma, Esq. will be arguing before United States Magistrate Judge Susan R. Nelson for the full release of all FBI files maintained by the Minneapolis Field Office relating to Leonard Peltier and RESMURS. The FBI reviewed 77,149 pages and released 66,594 pages in full or in part, however, 10,555 pages were withheld in their entirety. Of utmost significance is that Mr. Peltier seeks release of documents relating to informants, particularly with respect to the extent the Federal Bureau of Investigation paid informants to infiltrate Mr. Peltierıs defense team. Mr. Peltierıs legal team just discovered evidence establishing that Douglas Durham, who was a confidential source paid by the FBI to infiltrate the highest levels of the American Indian Movement and who was exposed on March 7, 1975, spoke with, and provided information to, William Halprin, the Chief Prosecutor from Canada against Mr. Peltier in connection with the extradition proceedings. Halprin requested Durhamıs involvement "to enable him to utilize source [Durham] to refute statements made by Peltierıs defense." The FBI instructed Durham "to provide information requested by Crown Attorney [and] If recontacted by Halprin, he would cooperate fully and would keep Omaha advised of developments." Knowing full well the impact such revelations would have on Mr. Peltierıs case, the government is fighting vigorously to prevent these documents, that date back over 30 years, from being publicly released. Among other things, the FBI claims that the release of this information would harm national security and reveal the identities of confidential sources. Mr. Peltierıs lawyers have argued that these are nothing more than pretexts to prevent the release of further evidence of the continuing violation of Mr. Peltierıs constitutional rights and further drives home the fact that Mr. Peltier never received a fair trial. For further information contact the Leonard Peltier Defense Committee: (915) 203-6358. www.leonardpeltier.net. --------4 of 14------- From: Gil Schwartz <gil [at] exploreveg.org> Subject: Animals/compassion 9.08 3:30pm Fall New Volunteer Meetings to Help Animals Become part of CAA! Learn how to help animals while socializing with other vegetarians and vegans. Attend one of our new volunteer meetings on Friday, September 8, or Tuesday, September 12, from 3:30 to 4:30! At the meetings, we'll discuss who we are and what we do, as well as your ideas for vegetarian and animal advocacy. We organize a huge variety of events, and there is almost definitely something that you will be interested in. Everyone is welcome, whether you are vegan, vegetarian, or just interested in helping animals. Both students and community members are encouraged to attend. Mark your calendar and help us save thousands of animals this fall by becoming part of Compassionate Action for Animals! Location: Coffman Union, rm 323 <http://onestop.umn.edu/Maps/CMU/index.html> at the University of Minnesota, http://onestop.umn.edu/Maps/CMU/index.html 3:30-4:30pm on Fri Sept 8 /or/ Tues Sept 12 If you can't make it to either meeting, feel free to fill out our volunteer form, http://www.exploreveg.org/help/volunteer.html, to stay informed about the many ways you can help animals. More info at info [at] exploreveg.org --------5 of 14-------- From: Charles Underwood <charleyunderwood [at] hotmail.com> Subject: Vigil vs Israel 9.08 4:15pm Friday, 9/8, 4:15 to 5:30, vigil to end U.S. military and political support of Israel, Summit & Snelling Aves, St. Paul. Karen, 651-283-3495. --------6 of 14------- From: Stephen Feinstein <feins001 [at] umn.edu> Subject: Sur-rational art 9.08 6pm THE SUR-RATIONAL PAINTINGS by Fritz Hirschberger The Katherine E. Nash Gallery is pleased to present the SUR-RATIONAL PAINTINGS by Fritz Hirschberger in an exhibition which opens August 29 and runs through October 5, 2006. The exhibition is from the collection of the Regis Foundation in conjunction with the University's Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies. A public opening reception at the gallery is scheduled for Friday, September 8, from 6-8:30 p.m. All events at the Nash are free and open to the general public. Gallery hours: Tuesday and Wednesday 10 a.m. 4 p.m.; Thursday, Friday, Saturday 10 a.m. 8 p.m. The Katherine E. Nash Gallery is located on the first floor of the Regis Center for Art at the heart of the West Bank Arts Quarter, 21st Avenue south and Fourth Street on the University of Minnesota's west bank campus. Fritz Hirschberger was originally from Dresden. His life was altered in 1938 by his expulsion, along with his family, to Poland. A member of the Polish army, he fled to the USSR after the defeat and occupation of Poland, and eventually served in the Polish Anders Army in North Africa and Italy. While not a survivor of the concentration camps, his family died in them. Hirschberger, who died in 2004 at age 93, was always haunted by the question of how to represent to Holocaust and other atrocities of the 20th century through art. One result is the SURRATIONAL PAINTINGS. These paintings tell stories. The artist has explained that the idea of combining painting with text "is based on the medieval German MORITAT (song) meaning a "song of Mori=deadly+Tat=deed. The lyrics of the Mortitat were usually based on a heinous crime and performed by strolling minstrels in combination with illustrations painted on a banner, like comic strips of our era." Brecht used this technique in his Three Penny Opera. Another comparison might be folk songs in many languages that extol events involving victims and perpetrators, crimes of passion, and especially "Robin Hood" type of social bandits who often stole from the rich to give to the poor. However, the level of the crime of the Holocaust is beyond such comparisons. Thus Hirschberger's works, which have wide interpretations, brings the viewer back to a confrontation with a narrative and suggests a problem to ponder: how to represent the Holocaust in the visual arts. Catalogue available for sale. School groups are welcome at the Nash and docents can be arranged by contacting Dr. Stephen Feinstein, at 612-626-2235 at least a week in advance. --------7 of 14-------- From: Minnesota Cuba Committee <mncuba [at] usfamily.net> Subject: Love/Cuba/film 9.08 6pm Friday, 6:00 pm, Resource Center, 3019 Minnehaha Avenue, Minneapolis, "Love and Suicide," Cuban-American filmmaker Luis Moro produced this film partly in Cuba, in defiance of the US embargo. The romantic drama describes one man's journey to discover the one thing that lies between love and suicide - and to make his choice. The Minnesota Cuba Committee meets every other week at Holy Trinity Church, 2730 E. 31st Street, Minneapolis. The next meeting will be 6:30, Thursday, September 7, 2006. For more information call 612 623-3452 or 651 983-3981 --------8 of 14-------- From: Charles Underwood <charleyunderwood [at] hotmail.com> Subject: 911 saint/film 9.08 7:15pm 9/8 to 9/14, 7:15 and 9:15 pm, film "Saint of 911" about Franciscan priest Mychal Judge who died in WTC attacks, Bell Museum, 10 Church St SE, Mpls. www.mnfilmarts.org --------9 of 14-------- From: teresa konechne <tontheroad [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Amy Goodman/HERE 9.08 7:30pm Amy Goodman Speaking Engagement Hosted by KFAI Radio Friday, September 8, 2006, 7:30 p.m. St. Joan of Arc Church, 4537 Third Ave. S., Minneapolis $10 general admission (see below for locations) CONTACT: Janis Lane-Ewart, Executive Director, KFAI Radio 612.341.3144 Ext. 23 janislaneewart [at] kfai.org KFAI Welcomes Amy Goodman, Award winning Journalist and Radio/TV Co-Host of Democracy Now! to the Twin Cities. KFAI Fresh Air Radio has aired her popular noon time program for over a decade. Are you concerned about the state of affairs in the US and abroad? Do you trust the nightly news to give you the "whole truth"? Do you wonder where you can get another viewpoint? Amy Goodman, notorious defender of civil rights, immigrant rights, and democracy, as well as relentless investigator of domestic and international issues - cuts through the mainstream media messages to present a refreshing and insightful look at the world we live in. Goodman returns to the Twin Cities to speak about her up-coming book, "Static: Government Liars, Media Cheerleaders, and the People Who Fight Back." Written with her brother David, "Static" takes on dishonest government officials, corporate profiteers, and the media that lets them get away with it. They expose how the Bush administration has manipulated and fabricated news and how the corporate media has worked hand in glove with them to deceive the public. In Ms. Goodman's words, "The role ofthe media is to go where the silence is and say something." Two years ago Ms. Goodman spoke to a standing room only crowd at St. Joan of Arc Church about her current best seller The Exception to the Rulers. Books will be available for purchase by Birchbark Books onsite. All proceeds from this event will benefit KFAI Radio. TICKETS: $10 general admission, available for purchase online by credit card at: http://www.kfai.org or by calling KFAI,612-341-3144, Ext. 33 Purchased directly at: -Birchbark Books, 2115 West 21st Street, Minneapolis, MN, 612.347.4023 -Lake Country Booksellers, 4766 Washington Sq., White Bear Lake, 651.426.0918 -Opposable Thumbs Books, 2833 NE Johnson St., 612.706.2020 -Golden Thyme Coffee, 921 Selby Avenue, St. Paul, 651-645-1340 -Cahoots Coffee Bar, 1562 Selby Avenue, St. Paul, 651-644-6778 teresa konechne working hands productions minneapolis mn 612.871.2576 (studio) 612.214.1121 (cell) www.workinghandsproductions.com (in progress) --------10 of 14-------- From: Farheen Hakeem <hijabicycle [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Lit drop/Farheen 9.08 September 8th, September 9th, September 10th, and September 11th, I need you, all of you, to lit drop Hennepin County District 4. Our team has been doorknocking since May, and we need to send a gentle reminder to people to vote on September 12th. Open up your calendars now, and block out 4 hours of time that weekend to drop literature in South Minneapolis. No door knocking, no talking, no campaigning. Just you pounding the pavement, enjoying the nice weather and participating in a grassroots campaign. Please call 612-395-5559 or info [at] farheenhakeem.org to let us know when you are available. --------11 of 14------- From: erin [at] mnwomen.org Subject: Precaution think 9.08-10 September 8-10: Women's Environmental Institute Precaution Academy. The Science and Environmental Health Network and Environmental Research Foundation have created the Precaution Academy will offer an intensive weekend of training to prepare participants to apply precautionary thinking to a wide range of issues in their communities and workplaces. Cost is $350, which includes hotel for two nights, plus six meals, and all instructional material. Limited scholarships may be available, inquire with Sherri Seidmon at sherri [at] sehn.org. www.w-e-i.org. --------12 of 14-------- Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:52:32 -0500 From: John Kolstad <jkolstad [at] millcitymusic.com> Subject: Gubernatorial debate The criterion used for Debates in Minnesota and the USA are arbitrary and capricious, usually driven by the money interests. Larry Agran, Mayor of Irvine California, and 1992 Democratic Presidential Candidate, set out to correct this after the grossly unfair treatment he received from the Democratic Party. He and a number of other mayors around America created 10 Objective Criterion to establish legitimacy as a candidate. If a candidate attained any 3 of these categories, they would be included in all debates. Again, Minnesota is being victimized by power brokers who make arbitrary decisions and publish no objective criterion for inclusion in the debates. At the State Fair a number of people spoke with me at the Green Party Booth stating that the phone calls they call from polsters were only asking about the Demcrats and the Republicans. The Independence Party was hearing the same thing. I would hope that someone would contact the League of Women Voters and ask them to establish Objective Criterion for Debates and not use questionable poll results. The number of elected Greens in MN, and the number of State wide and local Green candidates and the recent past of being a Major party are all indications that the Green Party of MN is a viable Party and its candidates are contenders in the coming election. If Greens and other viable candidates are not allowed in the debates then the elections themselves will not be legitimate. How can we call an election legitimate if only the candidates with support from those with money and power are allowed to speak to the electorate. Those with money and power are only 1 % or 2% of the population. Minnesota is better than that. YOu can fool some of the people but not all the people (you know the line). Elections should be about the ideas, experience, leadership and integrity of the candidate, not the amount of corrupting money they can collect. Particularly organizations the receive public money like MPR should be open and objective. John R Kolstad/President, Mill City Music aka Papa John Kolstad, candidate Attorney General - MN Green Party -- Rhoda Gilman wrote: As a member and contributor to 1000 Friends of Minnesota, I wish to second the sentiments of both Kristen Olson and Suzanne Linton. On several counts Ken Pentel should be included in the gubernatorial debate. To exclude him is to turn your back on a large and important group of Minnesotans who are among the most dedicated and articulate in supporting the very causes that you profess to uphold. You argue that it would be inconsistent to include him but exclude the candidates of other minor parties. If formal consistency is your primary goal, then include them all. I submit, however, that in the world of political reality (as contrasted with our state's archaic electoral laws) the Green Party is a major party. In both of the state's largest cities it is in fact not even a third party; it is the second party. I am sure you are not unaware that there is a broad base of Minnesota citizens who agree with Ken's positions and want to see them put forward in the political arena. Yet they seldom see any mention of him in the mass media, and they are dissuaded from voting for him because the overwhelming power of money makes him "unelectable." Rhoda R. Gilman --------13 of 14-------- War Is Not A Solution For Terrorism By Howard Zinn ZNet Commentary September 07, 2006 http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/2006-09/07zinn.cfm THERE IS SOMETHING important to be learned from the recent experience of the United States and Israel in the Middle East: that massive military attacks, inevitably indiscriminate, are not only morally reprehensible, but useless in achieving the stated aims of those who carry them out. The United States, in three years of war, which began with shock-and-awe bombardment and goes on with day-to-day violence and chaos, has been an utter failure in its claimed objective of bringing democracy and stability to Iraq. The Israeli invasion and bombing of Lebanon has not brought security to Israel; indeed it has increased the number of its enemies, whether in Hezbollah or Hamas or among Arabs who belong to neither of those groups. I remember John Hersey's novel, "The War Lover," in which a macho American pilot, who loves to drop bombs on people and also to boast about his sexual conquests, turns out to be impotent. President Bush, strutting in his flight jacket on an aircraft carrier and announcing victory in Iraq, has turned out to be much like the Hersey character, his words equally boastful, his military machine impotent. The history of wars fought since the end of World War II reveals the futility of large-scale violence. The United States and the Soviet Union, despite their enormous firepower, were unable to defeat resistance movements in small, weak nations - the United States in Vietnam, the Soviet Union in Afghanistan - and were forced to withdraw. Even the "victories" of great military powers turn out to be elusive. Presumably, after attacking and invading Afghanistan, the president was able to declare that the Taliban were defeated. But more than four years later, Afghanistan is rife with violence, and the Taliban are active in much of the country. The two most powerful nations after World War II, the United States and the Soviet Union, with all their military might, have not been able to control events in countries that they considered to be in their sphere of influence - the Soviet Union in Eastern Europe and the United States in Latin America. Beyond the futility of armed force, and ultimately more important, is the fact that war in our time inevitably results in the indiscriminate killing of large numbers of people. To put it more bluntly, war is terrorism. That is why a "war on terrorism" is a contradiction in terms. Wars waged by nations, whether by the United States or Israel, are a hundred times more deadly for innocent people than the attacks by terrorists, vicious as they are. The repeated excuse, given by both Pentagon spokespersons and Israeli officials, for dropping bombs where ordinary people live is that terrorists hide among civilians. Therefore the killing of innocent people (in Iraq, in Lebanon) is called accidental, whereas the deaths caused by terrorists (on 9/11, by Hezbollah rockets) are deliberate. This is a false distinction, quickly refuted with a bit of thought. If a bomb is deliberately dropped on a house or a vehicle on the grounds that a "suspected terrorist" is inside (note the frequent use of the word suspected as evidence of the uncertainty surrounding targets), the resulting deaths of women and children may not be intentional. But neither are they accidental. The proper description is "inevitable." So if an action will inevitably kill innocent people, it is as immoral as a deliberate attack on civilians. And when you consider that the number of innocent people dying inevitably in "accidental" events has been far, far greater than all the deaths deliberately caused by terrorists, one must reject war as a solution for terrorism. For instance, more than a million civilians in Vietnam were killed by US bombs, presumably by ``accident." Add up all the terrorist attacks throughout the world in the 20th century and they do not equal that awful toll. If reacting to terrorist attacks by war is inevitably immoral, then we must look for ways other than war to end terrorism, including the terrorism of war. And if military retaliation for terrorism is not only immoral but futile, then political leaders, however cold-blooded their calculations, may have to reconsider their policies. Howard Zinn is a professor emeritus at Boston University and the author of the forthcoming book, A Power Governments Cannot Suppress to be published by City Lights Books (www.citylights.com) this winter. --------14 of 14-------- FIGHT FOR INTERNET FREEDOM HEATS UP By John Nichols The Nation, Sept. 4, 2006 Congress is about to return to Washington this week after taking a long summer break for campaigning and before taking a long fall break for campaigning. During the brief period of governing that will be wedged into the month of September, a lot of damage could be done - particularly to "The First Amendment of the Internet": the principle known as "Net Neutrality." Net Neutrality, which has until now been the guiding principle that preserves a free and open Internet, ensures that everyone who logs on can access the content or run the applications and devices of every site on the world wide web. The neutrality principle prevents telephone and cable companies that provide internet service from discriminating against content based on its source or ownership. As the "Save the Internet" campaign [www.savetheinternet.com], a broad coalition of groups fighting to maintain open access to all sites on the web, explains: "Net Neutrality is the reason why the Internet has driven economic innovation, democratic participation, and free speech online. It's why the Internet has become an unrivaled environment for open communications, civic involvement and free speech." Telecommunications firms salivate at the prospect of eliminating Net Neutrality requirements and setting up systems where websites that pay for the service will be more easily reached than sites that cannot afford the toll. And U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens, the Alaska Republican who has for many years been a dominant figure in communications debates on Capitol Hill, is determined to change the rules so that Internet gatekeepers such as AT&T, Verizon, Comcast and Time Warner, can create an "information superhighway" for those who pay and a dirt road for those who fail to do so. A sweeping overhaul of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 that is being promoted by Stevens does not include Net Neutrality protections and would effectively clear the way for the telecommunications giants to colonize the Internet. Stevens, the chairman of the powerful Senate Commerce Committee, wants to see action on the measure before Congress breaks for the remainder of the election season in early October. But rewriting the rules to favor the telecommunications conglomerates may not be as easy this year as it was in 1996. Oregon Senator Ron Wyden has placed a hold on the overhaul legislation and says he will not lift it until Net Neutrality protections are written into the measure. Activists across the country used the August break to urge senators who had not taken a stand to line up in favor of net neutrality. Rallies in late August targeted Congressional offices in 25 cities nationwide, and they had an impact. A number of senators - including New York's Chuck Schumer, Minnesota's Mark Dayton, Iowa's Tom Harkin and Vermont's Jim Jeffords - pledged their support for net neutrality. But Stevens - and too many of his allies in both parties - remained unmoved as September started. As the return of Congress loomed, however, the Alaska senator took a poke from the largest daily newspaper in his state, the Anchorage Daily News, which bluntly declared in a September 4 editoral that: "Net Neutrality is a good idea. Sen. Ted Stevens should support it." "Sen. Stevens has said he doesn't see an immediate problem that requires regulation. In other words, he's reluctant to have the government set the playing rules until more companies are caught cheating. Apparently he thinks competition can be counted on to prevent any abuses," explained the editorial. "Only problem is, local Internet service is not a fluid, totally free market with a lot of competitors. Many markets are served by only one or two high-speed Internet companies. Switching providers is not as easy as driving to the next gas station or grocery store. Special expertise and special equipment are required to switch. Many consumers may not even be sophisticated enough to know when their Internet service is playing favorites in sending content." The Anchorage Daily News concluded that, "Net Neutrality is hardly a heavy-handed government intrusion into the free-wheeling world of the Internet. It is a simple antitrust rule that protects consumers by keeping Internet companies from exploiting their control over connections. Congress should get ahead of the curve and ensure net neutrality before abuses begin to spread." That's the right position. And it is summed up by a measure that the Senate should pass before its members go out and ask Americans for their votes this fall: The Internet Freedom Preservation Act. Sponsored by Maine Republican Olympia Snowe and North Dakota Democrat Byron Dorgan the act would provide meaningful protection for Net Neutrality. While the machinations in the Senate this month are troubling, they also provide a critical opening for the debate that America should be having on media policy. No incumbent senator or candidate for a senate seat should be allowed to make it to November without addressing the issue of Net Neutrality and the broader question of whether media policy in this country should serve a few telecommunications giants or the the great mass of Americans and the great potential of American democracy. Copyright 2006 The Nation [Eat the rich. Redistribute their money and power. Democracy cannot survive a ruling class. No way should most of us be in poverty and powerlessness and ruined lives just so a few out-dated mind-diseased peacocks can strut. -ed] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - David Shove shove001 [at] tc.umn.edu rhymes with clove Progressive Calendar over 2225 subscribers as of 12.19.02 please send all messages in plain text no attachments
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